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Thursday, January 24, 2013
THE BOTTOM LINE
Lately there has been some discussion in the comments section about Korean girls' hygiene, health maintenance, and the plastic surgeons who augment their bodies. And predictably, we have our doomsday conspiracy theory wackos who would have you believe the girls live their lives in a devil-may-care drug muddle with no clue as to what kind of shape they're in. My experience is that nothing could be further from the truth - at least as far as Koreans in Korean places (not Koreans in American places) go.
For starters, the girls take like 100 showers a day. Not only are they themselves squeaky clean - but so are the places where they work. Cleanliness is as much a part of Korean culture as smoking cigarettes and gambling. The constant smoke and gambling thing? Not so good! But the cleanliness? Excellent!
Koreans believe in cultivating, grooming and fine-tuning their product. And because that product is as much their physical appearance as anything else, they go to great lengths to mold their bodies, do their hair, and dress themselves to entice. A hood rat might have $5 lingerie...but a Korean girl? You can bet her little ensemble cost $200 at Victoria's Secret. That's just the way the Asian girls roll.
One commenter suggested that the girls' breast implant surgery is done on the cheap by interns and residents at Elmhurst Hospital. Well...maybe out in Queens that's the case, but here in Manhattan, the girls go to one of two licensed and board certified Korean doctors and pay in the neighborhood of 8 grand for their implant surgery. Korean girls don't do anything on the cheap. No dime store bikinis...never a fake designer bag...and certainly no hack surgeons on the payroll to save a few bucks.
So here's the bottom line on this discussion: Despite the girls' chosen occupation, a guy has a better chance of getting an unwanted "gift" cruising bars for drunk amateurs than he does with a professional K-girl. Sloppy bar patrons do stupid stuff under the influence. K-girls always have their wits about them while on incall duty (outcall is different) and again, are fastidious about their bodies. While there have been some rumors about risks existing at a place or two, those are American GFE joints whose girls like to party. In Koreatown? No sale. And that's my 2 cents for today.
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As always, your 2 cents is worth a whole lot more. You do know more than most, we should all agree on that.
ReplyDeleteI know the girls don't like to take too many showers as they constantly need to moisturize, but they are as clean as can be, I've never ran into a musky girl, in a k place anyway.
They are especially fastidious about their appearance and hygiene.
As far as skin care goes regarding nip and tuck related stuff, they use doctors in Flushing and Bayside.
I'd like to believe that the k girls have a sense of themselves and their safety, but with any gfe service, there are risks, a short bbbj or some kissing is not so rare in some of the k houses, it happens and I've experienced it.
Across the board, the k houses are the best bet regarding cleanliness, haven't been to a dirty feeling one yet. Many are dated but very clean.
Not all the girls are gamblers, smokers or shoppers, but the majority have a weakness for one or another.
$Bill, you are spot on, as usual. Koreans are very clean. I've been to Korea many times and I'm telling you, you can eat of the floor in any K-Girl's apartment. You can eat other things too, and never worry about it being unclean. :)
ReplyDeleteBeing good, responsible entrepreneurs is part of the culture. Of course, this particular business has it's pitfalls, but even so, they are always thinking of how to get and retain customers.
Certainly, there are exceptions for every rule, but in the main, it's all good. It's one reason why I only patronize K-girls. I've never caught anything yet.
There are extreme examples of k girls, the wasted gambling, chain smoking girl and the well behaved, well mannered princess. Neither one gives the full picture.
ReplyDeleteIn general, they are clean woman that care very much about themselves and their appearance. Their state of mind is not as easily understood as it differs regardless of their appearance. In their line of work and whatever brought them to it, has it's effect on their mental state.
I happen to know where they do their follow up visits after some minor plastic surgery, mostly in Queens. There are small clinics on Northern Blvd in Flushing and Bayside that cater to some if their working ailments. These girls beat up their bodies and are prone to many small ailments which I don't need to discuss. These ailments can be treated at the Korean clinics and more often than not, these girls have a box of pills to cover almost anything.
The one thing that can't be taken care of or is never addressed is that many suffer from some sort of depression which they try to make up for with shopping, gambling etc. They find strength somewhere, I personally don't think most of us could find that strength.
Many of us are so intrigued by this sector of this game, we can't hear enough and we always want to know more. A warning, the more you kno , the higher liklihood you'll be turned off altogether. This is not a dig on the k girls, it's a reflection on their unhappy position in life. You can agree that only a very small percentage of these ladies tend to move on gracefully into another line of work or a solid relationship. For whatever reason they chose the work, they deal with it and separate themselves from a sense of normalcy.
ReplyDeleteI find it odd that there are guys out there that jhdge them or make generalizations that are pejorative to say the least. They weren't born to make us happy and if they had the choice, they wouldn't be doing it. They aren't forced, but they make what appears to be legitimate reasons to continue, some real, some rationalized.
I'm not going to say, oh, these poor girls and I never fall for that act some do so well, but, I don't look down on them and try to analyze their behavior or make disparaging remarks about them.
One point being made is how clean they are regarding skin hair and make up. I agree, that's really a priority for the majority of them.
ReplyDeleteAnother point is health. I think they put health as second priority, looks being first. Many k girls will need a day at the sauna after walking too much. They pamper themselves when they can, but what light kissing or some slight bbbj before a cover is put on can definitely lead to many things..... I'm not a doctor, but from the real bad stuff to the treatable.
Someone make a comment that they beat up their bodies, do you think they ever sleep more than a few hours at a time? They are fed well, but taking 5-10+ clients a day must cause a lot of internal disruption, I don't think woman were built for that and they pay physical consequences for it.
Someone touched upon depression. I believe also many are afflicted by it. How fucking hard must it be to put on a smile for the 8th guy after 4 hours sleep and to not lose it when the client is wanting her all?
It's a crazy life and we should give them a little credit.
The good thing is that the places are extremely slow recently and the girls see fewer guys and have more time to rest - which they do constantly I've noticed. Mostly, they eat, sleep, primp or work on the job and not much else except maybe stream Korean tv. Rarely, have I seen a book in a Korean place!
DeleteThe book comment made me giggle.
DeleteA question, if you never had the type of relationship you have with the k houses, would you see these girls?
ReplyDeleteWhat turned you off if anything? You've must've had a connection with a few, not necessarily anything past a good friendship, how the hell are you able to separate yourself from getting further involved? I couldn't.
Besides all the bad stuff people think about them, surely you must have at least a few happy stories about how some girls moved on to a better life.
I've had a couple of Korean girlfriends and used to fool around in the community. But somehow, I evolved past that partly because I lost interest and partly because a few of the phone girls who would represent on my behalf with their employers were NOT comfortable with me suggesting I go in the room with a girl. Thus, it's been years since I saw a K-girl in session. But there wasn't any precipitating event. More like an organic evolution. But there are some hot girls I wouldn't mind a roll with.
DeleteWere you referring to Pepsi ?
DeleteMore like Cherry, Kymberly, Chanel and Ginie.
DeleteThe new or old Pepsi?
DeleteThe new one is a flash in the pan.
The girls he mentioned have character and even though they've been around a while, they are sexy as hell.
I think some of those gals on your short list might leave you wishing you had not tried to love the fantasy. One of them is downright frightening, as in "you want me to pay you?"
DeleteJust one guy's opinion
i have seen all 4 that bill mentioned......all 4 are a cant miss
DeleteSeen and encountered 2 different things.
DeleteAnd of course one person's hottie is another's nottie.
One of those gals is NOT like the others and never should be on that list.
Are you speaking of the girl that dose not have implants out of that group?
DeleteI've been involved with a few girls over the years and although never bamboozled by any, I no longer have interest in them, too much sadness, confusion, insecurities. Over a 6 year period, at different times of course, I had two live with me. One continued to work, didn't last long for the obvious reason, the other quit and we lived together as a couple for almost a year and things just didn't work out. I rarely play outside of the civilian realm now and I sorta cringe at what I know now and thinking about hitting a k house. Putting their work aside, they are just like any other woman.
ReplyDeleteI would have takeen the plunge with the second one if we were able to work out our differences or communicate better. Her past was just that and so was mine.
Maybe your change of venue, voluntary or not worked out better for you in the long run.
She's more of a masseuse than anything else, but the most fantastically curvaceous Korean I've ever met is Fifi at Madison Wellness. Perhaps I shouldn't share the secret, but, Lord, what a chest.
ReplyDelete"look in the mirror" yes the girls are damaged goods mentally. I've gotton to know and become good friends with one K-girl. As much as we speculate as to how they think and what happens to them after they retire. thay may remain a mystery. but here a question for us. Why do we monger. And why do some of us look for love with escorts? or companioship or friendship? yes K-girls are damaged goods but so are we who choose to see them.
ReplyDeletegood comment........if this was facebook i'd hit like
DeleteAlmost true, great comment though. Most of us are damaged to some degree, if they weren't damaged prior to getting in the business, there is a likelihood any prior issues will manifest themselves, the same with us when we're having a rough time in life or whatever.
DeleteMany guys monger for different reasons and I really don't think too many are looking for love, perhaps companionship or intimacy.
We are not damaged because we monger, but we may become damaged because we do.
Bill,
ReplyDeleteI'm heading to Phill for business this weekend, and was wondering if you had any recommendations for spots there. Would you trust backpage or is my best bet EROS? What is the going rate, give or take on EROS?
Phill = Philly = Philadelphia, PA
DeleteOn the east coast the KMP girls are generally older set in their ways and as beautiful as they are at times with their make up and alluring outfits nothing can hide the frustrations of the girls often dead end opportunities . Many girls have limited options as they get older if they live in an insuluar community 24 hours a day that offers them very little exposure to the country the call home. They live in a self imposed exile based on making a living as long as their looks and stamina can be maintained. Often I find the owners, mamasans and phone girls acting as surrogate sisters and mothers offering a family structure as they figure out what is next with their lives. Lately the more I frequent the KMP scene on the east coast the more depressing the whole scene has become. My west coast experiences as well as Altanta and Boston have been more favorable based on the youth of the provider, GFE service offered at a favorable price and the constant rotation of providers that seem to make their money and go on with their lives In the states or return to Korea. I find it odd many of the older east coast KMP providers are offered many opportunities to get their green card, albeit with strings attached in most circumstances but they choose to stay in their Korean culture for years isolated from all the other opportunities that can exist in the states. The older providers are from a generation of subservience, and a comfort of life living communally. The younger girls are looking for opportunity to make money meet a sugar daddy and continue with their lives on and persue their dreams. Ultimately the older providers have limited options if they have not. Secured a financial future for themselves maybe they end up as the next cooking and cleaning mamasan at a spa
ReplyDeleteThe "younger girl" and "older girl" has some meaning that needs clarification. I've hung out with beautiful working k girls in their mid 30's that told me straight, I'm an older girl which meant she's on her way out hopefully if things go well in the next 2 or 3 year . She also had blinderson rregarding any type of relationship, she'll work as much as possible and head back to Korea. This particular woman did the Japan, Australia and American thing, this being the last stop. This particular gurl had perspective regarding her situation.
DeleteThe "younger girl" mentality, regardless of age and experience still thinks she has game and will continue to play without a care in the world. If she is young, in her early to mid 20's, which is almost unheard of in any fs kmp here in NY, will eventually learn what the older girl knows, there is a brick wall out there. The sadness of it is, more guys pass on you and your repeats become less frequent.
Two girls work in houses. One type gets choice due to her relationship with our the house or she has a following which brings business to the house or both.
The second has no pull, no following and has to take the next client. It rarely gets better for that girl and adds another dimension to the sadness of it all.
NY is usually the last stop for most of the woman we know that have found themselves in a KMP here.